发表于 2013-5-5 22:19:53

记录贴follow alone (reviews site)

建网站有两年了。
以前都是按照xfactor的教材,用竞争小的EMD,挂adsense,随便搞搞就有排名,流量。竞争小的niche。
用的是clickbump的wp主题。
后来被gg kill了,站点都deindexed了,其实也没有黑帽的手法。
所以决定按照教材,好好做站。
第一个站点,*** reviews。 搜索量过w,月光mm说需要六个月。所以我就慢慢建了。
http://www.cnwebmasters.com/forum.php?mod=attachment&aid=NDUwMjh8YjExMDRkYWJ8MTM2Nzc2MzI3M3w2OTQ0NnwxMDQwMDY%3D

今天域名买了,wordpress搭完了,然后去建那几个page(about;policy;privacy)
文章还没调查,没有买。

希望这个贴子,起到监督作用。大家也都开始做吧。



补充内容 (2013-5-20 23:21):
还请回复有营养,别水贴。。谢谢

发表于 2013-5-5 22:22:09

沙发自己做。:lol

badgirl 发表于 2013-5-5 22:35:40

有难度啊~~~pr4 超多。。。bld也很强大

属于竞争高的词吧~
搜索量过W ...

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-5-5 22:38:27

badgirl 发表于 2013-5-5 22:35 http://www.cnwebmasters.com/static/image/common/back.gif
有难度啊~~~pr4 超多。。。bld也很强大

属于竞争高的词吧~


很明显的中等竞争
有执行力的情况下半年

zhangandma 发表于 2013-5-5 22:42:54

期待你的成功

忆往惜 发表于 2013-5-5 22:50:49

我一直佩服能坚持的人

发表于 2013-5-5 22:53:45

目前是默认主题。
装了几个插件。
Akismet
Contact Form 7
Secure WordPress
Sociable
WordPress Database Backup

我觉得新站开始慢慢加文章,头一个月不用怎么外链。
本周就是1-2文章吧。然后把做的好看一些,就够了。

睡去了,明天上班。

Anlee 发表于 2013-5-5 22:56:53

感谢楼住的分享,review的搜索一万多,非常不错,找到了好的关键词,有了好的开始,认认真真之行一定行,加油!

Anlee 发表于 2013-5-5 23:00:31

不好意思,在问一下,关键词是带 review搜索量过万吗?

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-5-5 23:03:18

你不会又使用EMD吧

eric205013 发表于 2013-5-6 07:34:32

贵在坚持,楼主加油

12寸黑白大彩电 发表于 2013-5-6 08:53:00

我想问下 emd是什么啊 我只听说过edm:)

sxtywxt 发表于 2013-5-6 08:55:06

楼主加油

幽兰百合 发表于 2013-5-6 09:00:21

:)支持LZ , ps:你之前的站为什么google要K你啊?又没黑帽,又没作弊的,真是奇怪

haichao 发表于 2013-5-6 09:35:27

楼主加油
一起努力

katharine427 发表于 2013-5-6 09:37:56

楼主加油,会一直关注你网站的成长,希望多多写贴分享啊。

发表于 2013-5-6 10:31:44

幽兰百合 发表于 2013-5-6 09:00 static/image/common/back.gif
支持LZ , ps:你之前的站为什么google要K你啊?又没黑帽,又没作弊的,真是奇怪 ...

站有点多,有些就是单页站,或者很少的几页。
clickbump主题貌似容易被kill。

发表于 2013-5-6 10:32:31

12寸黑白大彩电 发表于 2013-5-6 08:53 static/image/common/back.gif
我想问下 emd是什么啊 我只听说过edm

exact match domain

发表于 2013-5-6 21:14:51

今天看了下产品,基本确定哪里些要主推的产品。
开始琢磨网站上文章的模版。对比一下 juicer reviews那些网站的模版:
1. http://www.bestjuicer-review.com/omega-j8006-juicer-review-commercial-masticating-juicer-a-complete-look/
觉得这篇文章最能打动用户。用户就是估计看重某个有点,然后放大这个优点,然后就动心了,买了,我是这样。
2. http://juicerreviewspro.com/omega-j8006-juicer-reviews.html
这个就是比较普通,各方面都介绍到了。
3. http://www.juicerreview.co/omega-vrt350-heavy-duty-dual-stage-vertical-single-auger-low-speed-juicer/
这个文章类似第一个,不过感觉略乱。

我觉得用第一个模版套用,去试试了。

娜娜 发表于 2013-5-6 21:32:47

之前不是正规做法?

怎么被k了?

发表于 2013-5-6 21:44:34

娜娜 发表于 2013-5-6 21:32 static/image/common/back.gif
之前不是正规做法?

怎么被k了?

你们不会kill的。。。
都关心我怎么被k的。。

huang 发表于 2013-5-6 21:46:31

楼主要更新下去,我会定期来检查的

发表于 2013-5-6 23:10:39

http://www.cnwebmasters.com/thread-102615-1-1.html
原来如此,文章是这么写的。那个juicer都是照着做的。

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-5-7 18:28:23

善用文章模板

gger 发表于 2013-5-8 12:26:49

加油吧。

seming 发表于 2013-5-8 12:35:00

好好干。

wxj123 发表于 2013-5-8 12:42:11

期待楼主更新

pxsaner 发表于 2013-5-8 13:00:39

关注,希望楼主坚持下去

发表于 2013-5-8 23:50:56

这两天工作有点忙啊。
这两天在feverr上找写手,us的,让他们帮我写文章,找个三个,让他们写出来给我看看。

发表于 2013-5-8 23:51:41

先是沟通他们,跟他们要sample,然后问完成时间。。根据反馈定了这三个。

发表于 2013-5-8 23:54:07

My article requestment:
* Must have at least 500 words articles based on the product
* Must do deep research on the product I give
* 1-3% Keyword Density
* Articles must be original and unique, can not be spun from article robots.
* Must be fluent in English and compose excellent, grammatically correct written English.
* Be useful to the reader, and introduce the real benefits of the products

article is amazon product reviews

My product:
Amazon links:
Keywords in the article:
You can do the product research in:
Amazon customer reviews
http://www.consumersearch.com/search/reviews
http://www.testfreaks.com/
And google the info the you find


Please write the article in following article Structure:
Title – Typically “Product Name” Review
• Opening paragraph
• Strong Key Feature Paragraph
• Feature/Spec/Benefit Listing in bullet points
• Wrap up paragraph
• Customer Review Scores

发表于 2013-5-8 23:56:30

然后给个文章示例:
1. http://www.bestjuicer-review.com/omega-j8006-juicer-review-commercial-masticating-juicer-a-complete-look/

刚才老外说OK! Thank you for your order, and for your clear & helpful instructions....

gant 发表于 2013-5-9 00:03:59

lz已经在行动了,期待好消息,期待分享的

dealer 发表于 2013-5-9 15:56:11

楼主加油,我们都在看你呢

发表于 2013-5-10 01:11:55

今天注册20个邮箱。。注册邮箱好麻烦。。
去淘宝里搜 短信验证 好了

古雨 发表于 2013-5-10 01:40:18

虫 发表于 2013-5-10 01:11 static/image/common/back.gif
今天注册20个邮箱。。注册邮箱好麻烦。。
去淘宝里搜 短信验证 好了

邮箱去淘宝买啊,几分钱1个:lol

发表于 2013-5-10 09:18:40

邮箱搞定了。

ztencmcp 发表于 2013-5-10 09:44:38

12寸黑白大彩电 发表于 2013-5-6 08:53 static/image/common/back.gif
我想问下 emd是什么啊 我只听说过edm

EMD,就是Exact Matched Domain. 看Amazon案例一就知道了。

发表于 2013-5-11 11:48:19

这两天一直在弄roboform的问题,基本弄的差不多了,包括自定义的字段。发现真的很强大,这个用熟了,其实发外链就是整理的问题了。
然后,开始学习spin文章,买了spinchimp。我单词维度的spin,没有问题,都有同义词提示,换同义词就好了。
是不是spin分为同义词维度,和句子维度。句子维度,怎么做好?自己写感觉比较长了。。

发表于 2013-5-11 22:39:01

开始弄外链了。。整理站点,我估计要好几百个,才行。

发表于 2013-5-14 09:12:30

外包的第一篇文章回来了。写的还错的,fiverr就是时间长些。
另外两个写手再等,然后比较下。

yyqslly 发表于 2013-5-14 09:36:08

持续关注

c_losed 发表于 2013-5-15 21:11:39

@虫

请问下 那个图是什么分析软件呀? 谢谢

补充内容 (2013-5-16 14:04):
@虫 多谢
@月光飞燕 之前都是看过理论 但浮于表面 最近刚静心开始弄

xrayner 发表于 2013-5-15 23:28:37

坚持就是胜利哈

发表于 2013-5-16 00:16:52

另外两篇文章收到了,基本锁定一个writer。 绝对的top level。 就用他了,以后。
这几天一直收集外面,后面该spin article, 发外链了

vivi 发表于 2013-5-16 00:48:57

楼主收录怎么样了你的站
我还没有做外链呢

发表于 2013-5-16 08:11:50

vivi 发表于 2013-5-16 00:48 static/image/common/back.gif
楼主收录怎么样了你的站
我还没有做外链呢

站点收录了,上面一篇文章。

发表于 2013-5-17 00:08:28

Spun content can be great, but I also think it is very mis-understood. TBS gives us a lot of variations in articles with its auto-spin feature - but realistically I have always asked myself how many times those spun articles can be used. Let's take a quick look at a simple single sentence to get an idea of what I mean.

Code:
Original sentence: "Using spun articles is an easy way to create content for use in SEO."
This is a very simple sentence. Now I am going to spin it with SpinChimp using the auto-spin with Best settings.

Code:
Sentence with Spintax: "Using spun articles {is an|happens to be a|is actually} {easy|simple|effortless} {way to|option to} {create|generate} {content|information|information material} for {the use|the utilization} in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization}."
SpinChimp tells me this sentence is 67% unique. This, we are told, is a good number to aim for. Numerically we can end up with a lot of permutations on this sentence. So all is great then?

Not really...no.

Realistically we are only going to get two uses of this sentence before anyone with a brain will know it is spun content. Here is an example:

Spin Output One:
"Using spun articles is actually simple way to create content for the utilization in SEO."

Spin Output Two:
"Using spun articles happens to be a simple way to generate information material for the use in Search Engine Optimization."

Aside from the fact that it reads like shit, the variation is pretty good. It could be two sentences from two totally different articles. But let's output a few more.

Spin Output Three:
"Using spun articles is an easy way to create content for the utilization in SEO."

Spin Output Four:
"Using spun articles is actually easy option to create information material for the use in Search Engine Optimization."

So now the sentences are looking the same already, at best we are only going to get two uses out of this sentence before it is seen as an obvious spin. I wouldn't use it on a money site, nor on tier 1 properties.

So what about sentence spinning? Here we can use two variations on the same sentence:
Code:
{"Using spun articles is an easy way to create content for the use in SEO."|"Written content is not always the easiest thing to create, fortunately in SEO we can use spun content".}
That's a manual sentence spin, I will now add auto spintax as I did before:

Code:
{"Using spun articles {is an|happens to be a|is actually} {easy|simple|effortless} {way to|option to} {create|generate} {content|information|information material} for {the use|the utilization} in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization}."|"{Written|Penned|Authored} {content|information|information material} {is not|is certainly not} {always|constantly} the {easiest|simplest} thing to {create|generate}, fortunately in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization} {{we|you} can|we are able to|you can} {use|utilize} spun content".}
So it is looking a lot more complex now, and keep in mind this is just one sentence. But how good is it really?

Output One:
"Using spun articles happens to be a easy option to create information material for the use in SEO."

Output Two:
"Using spun articles happens to be a easy option to generate content for the utilization in Search Engine Optimization."

Output Three:
"Using spun articles happens to be a effortless way to create information material for the utilization in Search Engine Optimization."

Output Four:
"Using spun articles is actually effortless way to create information material for the utilization in Search Engine Optimization."

Okay, let's be honest here. Does that actually look like four completely different sentences? Nope. Best you are going to get here is 2 uses.

Power of 5+

Where do we go from here then? Word level spinning is clearly useless (or is it??) for money sites and tier 1 sites. Manual sentence spinning is better, but not good enough if you only do two sentence re-writes. I have experimented a lot with this, and things only really start to get usable at 5+ sentence rewrites. Here is an example, once again using the above sentence.

Five manual sentence rewrites:
Code:
{"Using spun articles is an easy way to create content for the use in SEO."|"Written content is not always the easiest thing to create, fortunately in SEO we can use spun content".|"I used to write many articles, it took up a great deal of my time, but then I discovered spinning.|Article spinning is a great time saver, it means you can create content without having to write hundreds of individual pages.|Low quality articles are a dime a dozen, high quality ones are much harder to come by, so creating content for SEO is difficult without either having access to spinning software or huge armies of writers.}
There five sentences written in just a few minutes. Now I will add auto-spintax again.

Five manual sentence rewrites plus auto spintax:
Code:
{"Using spun articles {is an|happens to be a|is actually} {easy|simple|effortless} {way to|option to} {create|generate} {content|information|information material} for {the use|the utilization} in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization}."|"{Written|Penned|Authored} {content|information|information material} {is not|is certainly not} {always|constantly} the {easiest|simplest} thing to {create|generate}, fortunately in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization} {{we|you} can|we are able to|you can} {use|utilize} spun content".|"I {{used|utilized} to|accustomed|familiar with} write {many|numerous|various} articles, it took up {a great deal of|a lot of} my time, {{but|however} then|however|then again} I discovered spinning.|{Article|Post} spinning is a great time saver, {it means|it signifies} {you can|you can easily|you are able to} {create|generate} {content|information|information material} {{without|with no} having|without} {to write|to create} hundreds of individual pages.|{Low|Minimal} {quality|high quality} articles {{are|tend to be|are really} a|are really a|are a definite} dime a dozen, {high|tall} {quality|high quality} ones {are|tend to be|are really} {much|a lot} {harder|more complicated} to come by, so {creating|making} {content|information|information material} for {SEO|Search Engine Optimization} is difficult {without|without having|with no} either having access to spinning software {or|or perhaps} huge armies of writers.}

This is a lot of words just for one sentence. But is it any good?

Output One:
"Post spinning is a great time saver, it signifies you can easily generate content without having to create hundreds of individual pages."

Output Two:
Article spinning is a great time saver, it signifies you are able to create content without to write hundreds of individual pages.
Output Three:
"Written content is certainly not always the simplest thing to create, fortunately in Search Engine Optimization we are able to utilize spun content".

Output Four:
"Using spun articles is actually effortless option to generate information for the utilization in SEO."

Output Five:
Article spinning is a great time saver, it means you are able to create information with no having to write hundreds of individual pages.

Output Six:
Post spinning is a great time saver, it signifies you can easily generate information material without having to create hundreds of individual pages.

Output Seven:
Minimal high quality articles are really a dime a dozen, tall high quality ones are really much more complicated to come by, so making information material for Search Engine Optimization is difficult without having either having access to spinning software or huge armies of writers.

Output Eight:
"Using spun articles is actually easy option to generate information for the use in Search Engine Optimization."

Output Nine:
Minimal quality articles are really a dime a dozen, high quality ones tend to be a lot more complicated to come by, so making information material for SEO is difficult without either having access to spinning software or perhaps huge armies of writers.

Output Ten:
Post spinning is a great time saver, it signifies you are able to create information without to create hundreds of individual pages.

Again the stuff reads like crap, but that isn't the point of this post - I am focusing on how many uses we can get out of an article. So, how many uses here? Count up how many sentences you can read before you start wondering if they are all spun. One and Two are clearly the same, but three and four are very different. Five is the same again, six is unique as is seven, eight is a repeat so is nine and ten.

So even with word spintax we are only getting five good uses of the sentences here. This rule applies no matter how many spin outputs you do. The number of good variations is determined by the number of sentence-spins, not by the number of word-spins.

Getting down to numbers

Five sentence rewrites is the minimum number I would be comfortable using on tier 1 properties. I wouldn't be happy with this on money sites. But how does this play out on the paragraph level? Simply put you multiply the number of uses per sentence by the number of sentences per paragraph.

Above I showed that with a single sentence spun at word level you would get two uses absolute max. To find out how this works at the paragraph level, you simply multiply the number of sentences per paragraph into the equation - let's say the average paragraph has five sentences. So 2 uses per sentence * 5 sentences per paragraph = 10 uses.

Yep just 10 uses per paragraph before anyone with half a brain will see the stuff is spun (realistically it is going to be far lower if manually read). And now, here's the thing - the number of uses does not increase with the number of paragraphs. Number of article uses is determined at the paragraph level not at the article level (there is an exception to this, which I will cover later in a follow on post).

Using the 5 sentence rewrites I mentioned above, we would have this: 5 sentence rewrites * 5 sentences per paragraph = 25 uses.

15 sentence rewrites (SR) * 5 sentences per paragraph (SP) = 75 uses.

Before anyone throws a wobbler about me not including word-spins in the equation, it is very easy to throw in a modifier (which is just approximate and does not take probability or permutations into account. But I am only interested in how the stuff appears - not in the total number of permutations. But it does serve to show how people are fooled by the belief that word spinning alone can generate thousands of articles). I work this out by multiplying the number of words in the original sentence, by the number of spin-brackets and then multiplying by the number of sentences. The first sentence has 15 words (W) and 7 spin brackets (SP) (words in spin brackets are not counted individually). So:

15W * 7SP = 105 * 1 = 105 uses per sentence

If you are using more than once sentence than you have to take an average. There are 39 word-level spin brackets in the 5 sentence example above. 39 / 5 = 7.8 average of spun words. There are a total of 106 words divided by 5 sentences = 21.4 words on average.

21.4W * 7.8SP = 166.92 * 5 = 834.6 uses

Then 834.6 uses per sentence * 5 sentence per paragraph = 4173 uses for the paragraph/article.

So as you can see mathematically the number of uses is increased dramatically by spinning at the word-level. However when we manually read those 10 sentences above, any idiot can see that at least four (maybe five) of those sentences are the same as each other. If you intend to use these articles on money sites or tier one properties then you must take this into consideration. Because clearly you don't get 4173 effective uses from those 5 sentences.

To keep things simple we remove word-spinning from the equation when the content is aimed at manual readers (of course the article still needs to be word spun because the stuff acts as camouflage, but we can't use it in the equation for manual reading). It fools anyone reading one or two articles, (will it fool search engines? That is the big question!). But it will not stand up to close inspection.

That means we get 4173 uses (of our 5 sentence rewrite example with 5 sentence per paragraph) if idiots are reading our articles, or if the search engine bot is particularly stupid.

It would be much more realistic to calculate word-spinning with an arbitrary number.

Or

We get just 25 uses if we want it to stand any chance of surviving a manual review (that's if google actually care, but do they?).


Bottom Line

Variations in articles has little to do with the uniqueness percentage - at least not until we go beyond the 100% unique level. 60% unique or even 80% unique may sound good on paper. Many people tend not to realise that every time they use the article the uniqueness drops. As I have shown, an article with 5 sentence rewrites only needs 25 outputs before it will be seen as obvious spun content. Yet supposedly based on world-level spinning, it would survive upwards of 4173 outputs for search engines (how likely is that?)...it's pretty clear it will get nowhere near that level.

Don't kid yourself and think that google can't detect spinning at this low level of complexity. It is very basic maths, the question is whether or not google care. Or whether they factor it into their search rankings. At this point I'm really not sure either way...

EDIT: For those that question that only 25 outputs with a 5 sentence rewrite is too low. You need to consider this:

1) 25 outputs is a realistic figure, even a half-assed bot should be able to realise there is dupe content beyond this. The examples above highlight this fact.
2) Using this same calculation when using a tool like UberCubez it is possible to end up with 2000 outputs with relatively little work...or even 50k outputs if you are capable of going to crazy levels of work. All this without factoring word spinning into the equation (it's just there for camouflage).
国外的spin文章方式。。好变态的感觉。

发表于 2013-5-17 00:09:25

Spun content can be great, but I also think it is very mis-understood. TBS gives us a lot of variations in articles with its auto-spin feature - but realistically I have always asked myself how many times those spun articles can be used. Let's take a quick look at a simple single sentence to get an idea of what I mean.

Code:
Original sentence: "Using spun articles is an easy way to create content for use in SEO."
This is a very simple sentence. Now I am going to spin it with SpinChimp using the auto-spin with Best settings.

Code:
Sentence with Spintax: "Using spun articles {is an|happens to be a|is actually} {easy|simple|effortless} {way to|option to} {create|generate} {content|information|information material} for {the use|the utilization} in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization}."
SpinChimp tells me this sentence is 67% unique. This, we are told, is a good number to aim for. Numerically we can end up with a lot of permutations on this sentence. So all is great then?

Not really...no.

Realistically we are only going to get two uses of this sentence before anyone with a brain will know it is spun content. Here is an example:

Spin Output One:
"Using spun articles is actually simple way to create content for the utilization in SEO."

Spin Output Two:
"Using spun articles happens to be a simple way to generate information material for the use in Search Engine Optimization."

Aside from the fact that it reads like shit, the variation is pretty good. It could be two sentences from two totally different articles. But let's output a few more.

Spin Output Three:
"Using spun articles is an easy way to create content for the utilization in SEO."

Spin Output Four:
"Using spun articles is actually easy option to create information material for the use in Search Engine Optimization."

So now the sentences are looking the same already, at best we are only going to get two uses out of this sentence before it is seen as an obvious spin. I wouldn't use it on a money site, nor on tier 1 properties.

So what about sentence spinning? Here we can use two variations on the same sentence:
Code:
{"Using spun articles is an easy way to create content for the use in SEO."|"Written content is not always the easiest thing to create, fortunately in SEO we can use spun content".}
That's a manual sentence spin, I will now add auto spintax as I did before:

Code:
{"Using spun articles {is an|happens to be a|is actually} {easy|simple|effortless} {way to|option to} {create|generate} {content|information|information material} for {the use|the utilization} in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization}."|"{Written|Penned|Authored} {content|information|information material} {is not|is certainly not} {always|constantly} the {easiest|simplest} thing to {create|generate}, fortunately in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization} {{we|you} can|we are able to|you can} {use|utilize} spun content".}
So it is looking a lot more complex now, and keep in mind this is just one sentence. But how good is it really?

Output One:
"Using spun articles happens to be a easy option to create information material for the use in SEO."

Output Two:
"Using spun articles happens to be a easy option to generate content for the utilization in Search Engine Optimization."

Output Three:
"Using spun articles happens to be a effortless way to create information material for the utilization in Search Engine Optimization."

Output Four:
"Using spun articles is actually effortless way to create information material for the utilization in Search Engine Optimization."

Okay, let's be honest here. Does that actually look like four completely different sentences? Nope. Best you are going to get here is 2 uses.

Power of 5+

Where do we go from here then? Word level spinning is clearly useless (or is it??) for money sites and tier 1 sites. Manual sentence spinning is better, but not good enough if you only do two sentence re-writes. I have experimented a lot with this, and things only really start to get usable at 5+ sentence rewrites. Here is an example, once again using the above sentence.

Five manual sentence rewrites:
Code:
{"Using spun articles is an easy way to create content for the use in SEO."|"Written content is not always the easiest thing to create, fortunately in SEO we can use spun content".|"I used to write many articles, it took up a great deal of my time, but then I discovered spinning.|Article spinning is a great time saver, it means you can create content without having to write hundreds of individual pages.|Low quality articles are a dime a dozen, high quality ones are much harder to come by, so creating content for SEO is difficult without either having access to spinning software or huge armies of writers.}
There five sentences written in just a few minutes. Now I will add auto-spintax again.

Five manual sentence rewrites plus auto spintax:
Code:
{"Using spun articles {is an|happens to be a|is actually} {easy|simple|effortless} {way to|option to} {create|generate} {content|information|information material} for {the use|the utilization} in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization}."|"{Written|Penned|Authored} {content|information|information material} {is not|is certainly not} {always|constantly} the {easiest|simplest} thing to {create|generate}, fortunately in {SEO|Search Engine Optimization} {{we|you} can|we are able to|you can} {use|utilize} spun content".|"I {{used|utilized} to|accustomed|familiar with} write {many|numerous|various} articles, it took up {a great deal of|a lot of} my time, {{but|however} then|however|then again} I discovered spinning.|{Article|Post} spinning is a great time saver, {it means|it signifies} {you can|you can easily|you are able to} {create|generate} {content|information|information material} {{without|with no} having|without} {to write|to create} hundreds of individual pages.|{Low|Minimal} {quality|high quality} articles {{are|tend to be|are really} a|are really a|are a definite} dime a dozen, {high|tall} {quality|high quality} ones {are|tend to be|are really} {much|a lot} {harder|more complicated} to come by, so {creating|making} {content|information|information material} for {SEO|Search Engine Optimization} is difficult {without|without having|with no} either having access to spinning software {or|or perhaps} huge armies of writers.}

This is a lot of words just for one sentence. But is it any good?

Output One:
"Post spinning is a great time saver, it signifies you can easily generate content without having to create hundreds of individual pages."

Output Two:
Article spinning is a great time saver, it signifies you are able to create content without to write hundreds of individual pages.
Output Three:
"Written content is certainly not always the simplest thing to create, fortunately in Search Engine Optimization we are able to utilize spun content".

Output Four:
"Using spun articles is actually effortless option to generate information for the utilization in SEO."

Output Five:
Article spinning is a great time saver, it means you are able to create information with no having to write hundreds of individual pages.

Output Six:
Post spinning is a great time saver, it signifies you can easily generate information material without having to create hundreds of individual pages.

Output Seven:
Minimal high quality articles are really a dime a dozen, tall high quality ones are really much more complicated to come by, so making information material for Search Engine Optimization is difficult without having either having access to spinning software or huge armies of writers.

Output Eight:
"Using spun articles is actually easy option to generate information for the use in Search Engine Optimization."

Output Nine:
Minimal quality articles are really a dime a dozen, high quality ones tend to be a lot more complicated to come by, so making information material for SEO is difficult without either having access to spinning software or perhaps huge armies of writers.

Output Ten:
Post spinning is a great time saver, it signifies you are able to create information without to create hundreds of individual pages.

Again the stuff reads like crap, but that isn't the point of this post - I am focusing on how many uses we can get out of an article. So, how many uses here? Count up how many sentences you can read before you start wondering if they are all spun. One and Two are clearly the same, but three and four are very different. Five is the same again, six is unique as is seven, eight is a repeat so is nine and ten.

So even with word spintax we are only getting five good uses of the sentences here. This rule applies no matter how many spin outputs you do. The number of good variations is determined by the number of sentence-spins, not by the number of word-spins.

Getting down to numbers

Five sentence rewrites is the minimum number I would be comfortable using on tier 1 properties. I wouldn't be happy with this on money sites. But how does this play out on the paragraph level? Simply put you multiply the number of uses per sentence by the number of sentences per paragraph.

Above I showed that with a single sentence spun at word level you would get two uses absolute max. To find out how this works at the paragraph level, you simply multiply the number of sentences per paragraph into the equation - let's say the average paragraph has five sentences. So 2 uses per sentence * 5 sentences per paragraph = 10 uses.

Yep just 10 uses per paragraph before anyone with half a brain will see the stuff is spun (realistically it is going to be far lower if manually read). And now, here's the thing - the number of uses does not increase with the number of paragraphs. Number of article uses is determined at the paragraph level not at the article level (there is an exception to this, which I will cover later in a follow on post).

Using the 5 sentence rewrites I mentioned above, we would have this: 5 sentence rewrites * 5 sentences per paragraph = 25 uses.

15 sentence rewrites (SR) * 5 sentences per paragraph (SP) = 75 uses.

Before anyone throws a wobbler about me not including word-spins in the equation, it is very easy to throw in a modifier (which is just approximate and does not take probability or permutations into account. But I am only interested in how the stuff appears - not in the total number of permutations. But it does serve to show how people are fooled by the belief that word spinning alone can generate thousands of articles). I work this out by multiplying the number of words in the original sentence, by the number of spin-brackets and then multiplying by the number of sentences. The first sentence has 15 words (W) and 7 spin brackets (SP) (words in spin brackets are not counted individually). So:

15W * 7SP = 105 * 1 = 105 uses per sentence

If you are using more than once sentence than you have to take an average. There are 39 word-level spin brackets in the 5 sentence example above. 39 / 5 = 7.8 average of spun words. There are a total of 106 words divided by 5 sentences = 21.4 words on average.

21.4W * 7.8SP = 166.92 * 5 = 834.6 uses

Then 834.6 uses per sentence * 5 sentence per paragraph = 4173 uses for the paragraph/article.

So as you can see mathematically the number of uses is increased dramatically by spinning at the word-level. However when we manually read those 10 sentences above, any idiot can see that at least four (maybe five) of those sentences are the same as each other. If you intend to use these articles on money sites or tier one properties then you must take this into consideration. Because clearly you don't get 4173 effective uses from those 5 sentences.

To keep things simple we remove word-spinning from the equation when the content is aimed at manual readers (of course the article still needs to be word spun because the stuff acts as camouflage, but we can't use it in the equation for manual reading). It fools anyone reading one or two articles, (will it fool search engines? That is the big question!). But it will not stand up to close inspection.

That means we get 4173 uses (of our 5 sentence rewrite example with 5 sentence per paragraph) if idiots are reading our articles, or if the search engine bot is particularly stupid.

It would be much more realistic to calculate word-spinning with an arbitrary number.

Or

We get just 25 uses if we want it to stand any chance of surviving a manual review (that's if google actually care, but do they?).


Bottom Line

Variations in articles has little to do with the uniqueness percentage - at least not until we go beyond the 100% unique level. 60% unique or even 80% unique may sound good on paper. Many people tend not to realise that every time they use the article the uniqueness drops. As I have shown, an article with 5 sentence rewrites only needs 25 outputs before it will be seen as obvious spun content. Yet supposedly based on world-level spinning, it would survive upwards of 4173 outputs for search engines (how likely is that?)...it's pretty clear it will get nowhere near that level.

Don't kid yourself and think that google can't detect spinning at this low level of complexity. It is very basic maths, the question is whether or not google care. Or whether they factor it into their search rankings. At this point I'm really not sure either way...

EDIT: For those that question that only 25 outputs with a 5 sentence rewrite is too low. You need to consider this:

1) 25 outputs is a realistic figure, even a half-assed bot should be able to realise there is dupe content beyond this. The examples above highlight this fact.
2) Using this same calculation when using a tool like UberCubez it is possible to end up with 2000 outputs with relatively little work...or even 50k outputs if you are capable of going to crazy levels of work. All this without factoring word spinning into the equation (it's just there for camouflage).
国外的spin文章方式。。好变态的感觉。

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-5-17 00:29:42

近期英语版主会出一个伪原创付费教程,可以关注,适合中国人

bayet 发表于 2013-5-17 13:36:09

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-5-17 00:29 static/image/common/back.gif
近期英语版主会出一个伪原创付费教程,可以关注,适合中国人

不错,就是头疼,文章的问题,写的不好,就是有流量 了 也没转化啊。

gant 发表于 2013-5-17 14:37:55

支持一个,送个花.lz要继续更新进度呀,.分享给大家

古雨 发表于 2013-5-19 20:34:46

:lol楼主,我来监督你了,不干活就打PP;P

发表于 2013-5-19 23:03:22

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-5-17 00:29 static/image/common/back.gif
近期英语版主会出一个伪原创付费教程,可以关注,适合中国人

我只做词维度的spin可以么?

Freeclub 发表于 2013-5-19 23:05:50

这个不错,可以学

leeqiang 发表于 2013-5-19 23:28:01

l楼主的帖子让人受益匪浅

pxsaner 发表于 2013-5-20 00:42:02

关注,很多时候多看看回复,收获不小啊

发表于 2013-5-20 22:53:37

用chimp rewriter spin一篇文章.我英语还不错.反正就是词维度的spin,用着挺爽..
要是大学生靠四六级,用这个练习,觉得分高出一块..

浮沉 发表于 2013-5-20 23:08:12

祝愿楼主成功。

发表于 2013-5-20 23:22:14

发了一个文章外链。。。

发表于 2013-5-21 09:14:14

其实开始发多少外链不重要。重要的是磨练这套外链搭建系统。。
谨记这条。

leeqiang 发表于 2013-5-21 09:24:08

看了这么多帖子 总结还是外链建设比较重要

seven7seven 发表于 2013-5-21 15:05:36

坚持总会有收获。

裥单づ 发表于 2013-5-22 13:12:36

嗯。好的执行力 成功一大半

bjghw 发表于 2013-5-22 13:16:08

执行力不错,

wawylysys 发表于 2013-5-22 14:23:07

楼主坚持下去,搜索量1万多的词,一旦做到前三名,收入会非常高了

发表于 2013-5-23 09:03:27

发了social bookmark 3个,文章外链一个。

发表于 2013-5-23 23:45:27

google 升级了吧。。一个竞争直接不见了。。

甜甜私房猫 发表于 2013-5-24 16:25:04

这么快就发外链了?

发表于 2013-5-28 13:37:35

甜甜私房猫 发表于 2013-5-24 16:25 static/image/common/back.gif
这么快就发外链了?

嗯。发的少。
这几天发了少量外链。
又加了一篇文章。

发表于 2013-5-30 08:21:20

加了几个相关评论外链,等结果,还在pending状态,等结果。。。:):):)

bizet 发表于 2013-6-1 13:39:52

应该继续在发外链和增加文章,没看到什么更新哦

发表于 2013-6-1 16:57:35

bizet 发表于 2013-6-1 13:39 static/image/common/back.gif
应该继续在发外链和增加文章,没看到什么更新哦

一直在做外链,文章又加了一篇。
不过等乐版主的文章改写教程。

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-5 23:39:50

我是感觉你的外链都不是高质量的,多往这方面思考下吧

发表于 2013-6-6 06:31:42

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-5 23:39 static/image/common/back.gif
我是感觉你的外链都不是高质量的,多往这方面思考下吧

因为一直没舍得花钱外包外链文章。。
自己弄文章比较麻烦。
在找合适的文章资源。。

发表于 2013-6-6 07:09:46

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-5 23:39 static/image/common/back.gif
我是感觉你的外链都不是高质量的,多往这方面思考下吧

去fiverr买文章了。把guest post 连接地址给他们,title什么的。
看他们能不能完成的怎么样了。
有些好的写手,写的时间周期长些。

发表于 2013-6-6 22:51:41

PHPmotion Media Sharing CMS - PHPmotion 是一个免费的视频分享系统,同时也支持 mp3 的分享。

发表于 2013-6-7 08:04:53

今天做了几个相关的comment。。
能找到自动approve的comment了。

发表于 2013-6-8 07:29:31

虫 发表于 2013-6-7 08:04 static/image/common/back.gif
今天做了几个相关的comment。。
能找到自动approve的comment了。

没有。。用特殊的footprint+keyword找的。基本没有人发过。

发表于 2013-6-9 00:23:30

提交了三个 guest post 和一篇pr
其中,guest post 回复很快。。要收钱。。ignore 他。。
等其他结果。

Lebron. 发表于 2013-6-9 14:39:01

楼主执行力不错,看好楼主,加油。

发表于 2013-6-10 14:32:07

又一个guest post 跟我要钱。。找了三,三都跟我要钱。服了。
press release 发表了,pr6的站。。。
做了几个图片外链。

发表于 2013-6-10 16:50:34

虫 发表于 2013-6-10 14:32 static/image/common/back.gif
又一个guest post 跟我要钱。。找了三,三都跟我要钱。服了。
press release 发表了,pr6的站。。。
做了几 ...

有一个跟我要40英镑,有一个找我要$20没有。。
有一个说要钱,没问。。

发表于 2013-6-17 16:25:32

最近一直在买文章。估计这个站文章数会过百了。

发表于 2013-6-26 10:38:28

网站一直在加文章。一直在做。
放心。

心若无尘 发表于 2013-7-1 01:22:01

期待楼主早日取得成效         

baron 发表于 2013-10-3 22:00:18

下面没了?这些帖子是不是一旦贴主运行正常后就消失了?

ads419 发表于 2014-2-20 21:01:37

楼主的网站现在怎么样了?

RootSir 发表于 2014-4-11 21:59:47

然后就各种太监了 也不收个尾了            :lol

jixiangchn 发表于 2014-6-29 11:46:40

虫 发表于 2013-5-8 23:54 static/image/common/back.gif
My article requestment:
* Must have at least 500 words articles based on the product
* Must do deep...

Mark,外包文章要求模板

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