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Private proxy or host your own proxy?
私人代理还是自主代理？
原文地址：http://advertcn.com/viewthread.p ... 26amp%3Btypeid%3D55 by dxszzcylm, 2012-5-24 00:08.
I am just searching information about proxy. I mainly use it for BMD, senuke or may be some scrapebox(not heavy user).
I see some web site sell private proxy, the price is around $1.75-$3 depending on how many you order. I am not sure whether these proxy are dedicated to you or not. Or I can find some VPS and host my proxy server. IP price is around $0.5-$1, so it might be much cheaper than those proxy provider.
So does anyone here got any suggestion? Thanks.
我在搜索关于代理的信息,代理我主要是用来为BMD,senuke或者一些scrapebox服务（不是重度使用者）。
我看到一些网站在卖私人代理，价格大概是1.75到3刀，取决于订单量的。我不清楚这些代理是不是为我个人专属的。或者我可以找到一些VPS，然后架设代理服务器，IP价格是0.5到1刀左右，所以这样的话比那些代理提供商要便宜不少。
有人有什么建议吗？谢谢！
Generally, if they are selling a price ($1.75-$3) PER proxy - that's a private, exclusive proxy for you (ie, no one else will be using it while you are paying for it). However that does NOT mean that no one used it in the past, and could have very well ruined the IP already.
总体来说，如果他们以1.75到3刀的价格/每条代理的价格来卖的话，那就是私人的，你专属的代理（就是说，如果你为之付钱了，那就没有别人在用了）。但是，这并不意味着没有人在你之前用过，或者他们早就已经损坏了这个IP。
For instance - when I was a customer of anonymous-proxies.net - I set it up with the owner that I switch out my proxies for new ones, once a month - because I would rape them, and they would be useless to me after a few weeks. Of course, I'm sure he would put those IPs back in his "available" list when I was done with them.
比如说，当我还是anonymous-proxies.net的客户的时候，我设置好每个月更新一批IP，因为我已经把这些IP都用烂了，它们在几周之后就对我没什么用了。当然了，我确定他们会在我不用这些IP之后把它们重新归入他们的“可用名单”里。
Basically, unless you are using a proxy provider that is brand new, or doesn't have many users from bhseos, bhw, or wpbh - they're pretty much hit or miss. However, most of the time, you just need different IPs for multiple account creation, etc... So most of the time, it doesn't matter.
基本上，除非你的代理提供商非常新，或者没什么从bhseos, bhw或者wpbh来的客户，那么它们早就被用烂了。但绝大多数时候，你所需要的仅仅是用不同的IP来开设多账号，等等，所以大多数时候都是没关系的。
However, if you are using proxies for say, Xrumer - IP's get blacklisted on stopforumspam.com for instance, and they don't get removed. So if you buy proxies that someone else already got blacklisted, they will be useless for you if you are using them for the same purpose.
The safest and best bet is to setup squid on your own dedicated server - however you'll want very good bandwidth and many IPs.
但是，如果你用代理的目的是，比如说，Xrumer,一旦IP已经被stopforumspam.com列入了黑名单，那么这些代理就永远在上面了。如果你买到这些已经列入黑名单的代理的话，如果你用于相同的用途，就没什么用了。
最安全的方法是在你的专属服务器上假设乌贼，但是这样做的话你会需要很好的带宽和许多的IP。
Larceny, thanks for the useful info.
I will do more research about it. You are corrected, those proxy provider say the IP is dedicated, but why they mean is at this moment only, someone might use it before and you can't sure whether that IP have been blacklisted or not.
VPS is a good way to go, but it takes time for you to manage them (compare with proxy provider).
感谢Larceny提供的有用信息。
我会做更多的研究。你是对的，那些代理说IP是专属的，但他们的意思只是目前是这样，有些人在以前可能就用过了，你不能保证这些IP到底有没有上过黑名单。
VPS是个好办法，但是相比代理提供商这将花费你更多的时间去打理。
For scrapebox - start recording every public proxy you find. My master list has over 50k unique entries, of which I find 2-3k working at any given point in time. Typically, I will only use the 700-1000 fastest public proxies, but in doing this you save yourself a lot of coin and don't risk banning your own private proxy's IP or pissing off your proxy provider with a spam complaint.
对Scrapebox来说，开始记录下来每一个你发现的开放代理。我有一个名单，收集了五万条代理，其中两三千在任何时候都是有效的。基本上，我只会去用700到1000的最快的公用代理，但这样做可以省下不少银子，也不用冒着你的私人代理IP被封的风险，以及垃圾投诉惹恼你的代理提供商。
BMD and SENuke both "Require" private proxies. I say "Require" because you CAN use a public one, but I wouldn't...
Either way - consider making a master list of public proxies as they do come in handy for A LOT of things.... mass pinging, etc.
BMD和SENuke都“需要”私人代理，我说“需要”是因为你可以使用公用代理，但我不会这样做。
不管哪种方法，考虑一下建一个公用代理的名单吧，这样放在手边可以干不少事情，比如大量Ping，等等。 |
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